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Padre de Baderich, king of the Thüringians; Radegund, queen consort of the Lombards; Hermanfried, king of the Thüringians and Bertachar, co-King of the Thüringians
Medio Hermano de: Clovis I the Great, King of the Franks; Audofledis "Blanchefleur" of the Salian Franks, Princess Of France; Albofled and Lanthechilde
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisinus
Bisinus (sometimes shortened to Bisin) was the king of Thuringia in the 5th century AD or around 500. He is the earliest historically attested ruler of the Thuringians. Almost nothing more about him can be said with certainty, including whether all the variations on his name in the sources refer to one or two different persons. His name is given as Bysinus, Bessinus or Bissinus in Frankish sources, and as Pissa, Pisen, Fisud or Fisut in Lombard ones.[1]
History
Bisinus was the first husband of Menia,[2] a fact attested only in the 9th-century Historia Langobardorum codicis Gothani.[3][4] He had a daughter, Raicunda, who became the first wife of the Lombard king Wacho (c. 510540),[5] a fact attested in all three of the main Lombard chronicles (two of which specify that he was king of the Thuringians).[6][7][8] Menia later married a man (unnamed in the sources) of the Gausus family and became the mother of Audoin, who in 540 became the regent of Wacho's son by his third wife, Walthari, and then succeeded him to the throne in 546.[2]
Bisinus was also the father of the three brothers who ruled Thuringia in the 520s and 530s: Hermanafrid, Bertachar and Baderich.[9] Bertachar had a daughter, Radegund, who founded Holy Cross Abbey in Poitiers and was recognised as a saint. She died in 587. Two hagiographies of her were produced by her friends Baudovinia and Venantius Fortunatus.[10][11] Fortunatus specifies that she was "from the Thuringian region", a daughter of King Bertachar and granddaughter of King Bisinus.[12]
While most scholars accept that the Thuringian kings called Bisinus in the Frankish sources and Pissa in the Lombard ones are one and the same, Martina Hartmann rejects the identification and points out that the Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire makes no such identification either.[13]
20. Mladjov, Ian (2014). "Barbarian Genealogies". In H. B. Dewing (trans.); Anthony Kaldellis (eds.). The Wars of Justinian by Prokopios. Hackett. pp. 560566. p. 564, presents a genealogical reconstruction in which Bisinus married first Basina and had his sons by her before marrying Menia, by whom he had Radegund, who is presented as his daughter rather than granddaughter.
-http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HUNGARY.htm#AlboinLombardsdied572A
[---] . King of the Pissa.
m MENIA ---. The Historia Langobardorum names "mater Audoin Menia uxor fuit Pissæ regis"[149]. This wording suggests that "Pissæ regis" was not the father of Audoin, presumably Menia's second husband. It is assumed that "Pissæ" indicates that he was king of a tribe of that name.
/!\ [Pissa] & his wife had one child:
1. AUDOIN (-in Pannonia 560). ... ... ... ....
m firstly RODELINDA [Roddenda], daughter of ---. ... ...
m secondly --- of the Thuringians, daughter of HERMINAFRID King of the Thuringians & his wife Amalaberga the Ostrogoth. ... ...
King Audoin & his first wife had [two] children:
a) ALBOIN (-murdered 28 Jun 572). ... ... ... ... ... ... - KINGS of ITALY.
b) [ ---. m ---. ] One child:
i) GISULF . ... ... "Gisulfum suum nepotem" as "ducem [in] Foroiulanæ civitati" [163]
"nepoti sui Gisolfi" [164] ... ... - DUKES of FRIULIA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Thuringia
Ben M. Angel notes: A user proposed Zülpich as the death location. This apparently was the location of a major battle in either 496 or 506 between the Franks and the Alemannii (the Battle of Tolbiac), in which the Alemannii were defeated. However, there was no participation by the Thuringii, a barbarian people that had Basinus as their king. As this appears to be a mix-up between barbarian people histories, I've deleted the reference on his death location, and placed it within the confines of his kingdom - more likely to be accurate.
NOTE:- It was Hermanfried who died in Zulpich, pushed off a wall by Theodoric when he failed to keep his promise of sharing the kingdom, it really wasn't an accident, it was murder. Basinus probably did die in his kingdom as he died before his sons.
According to Gregory of Tours, he supplied refuge from Childeric I, the Frankish king who was exiled by his own people. His wife, Basina, left him for Childeric and the two returned to Tournai together, after eight years.
The historical Bisinus bears some resemblance to the Bisinus of Gregory, but the details are different. Bisinus was the leader of a Thuringian confederation on the Rhine and his wife was a Lombard named Menia. He left three sons, Baderic, Herminafred, and Berthachar, who inherited the throne from him. His daughter Radegund married the Lombard king Wacho.
Bisinus was our ancestor through two distinct lines of descent--through his son Baderic and his son Hermanafrid, each of whom was independently our ancestor.
ID: I5448Ba08a
Name: Basinus Thuringians,king-of
Given Name: Basinus
Surname: Thuringians,king-of
Sex: M
Note:
VERSIONS OF HIS NAME:
- Basinus [Gregory0594] - Bisinus|Basinus|Besinus|Bisin|Pisen [wWikipedia]
TITLES: - king of Thuringians
SOURCES: Wikipedia "Bisinus" Gregory0594 Marriage 1 Basina -
Children
1. Baderic Thuringia,king-of b: abt 0480A -
2. Herminafred Thuringia,king-of -3
3. Berthachar Thuringia,king-of -
4. Radegund Thuringia,of Forrás
Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pkd&id=I5448Ba08a
After a vicious battle near Tournai, he and Childeric, went into seclusion. It's here that his wife Basina leaves him and returns to Belgium with Childeric.
Bisinus, Basinus, Besinus, or Bisin (Lombardic: Pisen) was the king of the Thuringii (fl. c. 460 506/510).
According to Gregory of Tours, he supplied refuge to Childeric I, the Frankish king who was exiled by his own people. Bisinus's wife, Basina, left him for Childeric and the two returned to Tournai together, after eight years.
The historical Bisinus bears some resemblance to the Bisinus described by Gregory of Tours, but the details are different: Bisinus was the leader of a Thuringian confederation on the Rhine and his wife was a Lombard named Menia. He left three sons, Baderic, Herminafred, and Berthachar, who inherited the throne from him. His daughter Radegund married the Lombard king Wacho.
Bisinus van Thüringen
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Stamboom van Tweel 6 september 2015 in van Tweel Web Site, managed by J.J. van Tweel
Birth: 454
Padre: Merwig Ii Van Thüringen
Wife: Menia Van Thüringen (geboren Van Lombardije)
Son: Balderic (Berthar) (Baderich) Van Thüringen
Bisinus van Thüringen
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Linsen Web Site, managed by Danny Linsen
Birth: Circa 460
Death: Between 506 and 510
Padre: Berthaire Van Thüringen
Wife: Menia Van Thüringen (geboren Van Thuringen)
Wife: Basina Andovera Der Franken (geboren Van Thuringen)
Children: Berthachar Van Thuringen, Balderic Van Thüringe
Bisinus Ii. van Thüringen
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EDWARD LUKAS in KLEIN, REE, de BREED, de VRIES Web Site, managed by Marthan Klein
Birth: 430
Death: 491
Wife: Basina Van Keulen
Wife: Menia Van Thüringen (geboren Der Logobarden)
Children: Hermenfried Herminafried Van Thüringen, Baderik Balderic Van Thüringen, Radegund Austrigusa Der Longobarden (geboren Van Thuringen), Berthachar Van Thüringen
Bisinus van Thüringen
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van Beek Family Tree in van Beek Web Site, managed by Jeen van Beek
Birth: 430
Death: 491
Parents: Banin Chlodwig Van Thüringen, Basina Van Saksen
Siblings: Arnegonde Der Franken (born Van Basinden), Basina Der Merovingen (born Van Thüringen (Van Keulen)), Menia Van Thüringen
Wife: Menia Van Thüringen
Children: Balderic Van Thüringen, Berthachar Van Thüringen, Hermenfried Van Thüringen, Bertaire Van Thüringen, Radegonde Van Thüringen
Bisinus van Thüringen
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Stamboom van Tweel 6 september 2015 in van Tweel Web Site, managed by J.J. van Tweel
Birth: 454
Padre: Merwig Ii Van Thüringen
Wife: Menia Van Thüringen (geboren Van Lombardije)
Son: Balderic (Berthar) (Baderich) Van Thüringen
Bisinus van Thüringe n
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Roeleveld Horzelenberg Web Site, managed by Erna Roeleveld
Birth: Circa 440
Padre: Chlodwig I Banin Van Thüringen
Siblings: Arnegonde Der Franken (geboren Van Basinden), Bisina Der Franken (geboren Van Thüringen), Menia Van Thüringen
Wife: Menia Van Thüringen
Children: Balderic Mede Van Thüringen, Berthachar Van Thüringen
PLZ sources or calculation for born c.451
( the system is perfectly capable of offering generic missing dates, wandering around antiquity and assigning randomly suggested dates is not welcome TNX:)